New Mantra

topic posted Mon, April 28, 2008 - 2:20 PM by  elegantunity
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I've been developing this for some time and it is working, so I share it with you:

"God now provides us with lives we love living."

My chosen goal is to support the birthing of Heaven on Earth in whatever small ways I am able through personal change and daily kindness. This mantra supports everyone's right to define for themselves what constitutes a loved life and we will gravitate to where we vibrate as in Heaven. I've gained so much insight from this website: www.near-death.com/

Namaste
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  • Re: New Mantra

    Fri, May 2, 2008 - 10:55 PM
    No offence but budddhists don't believe in 'a god'. But gods who are subject to the cycles of samsara: birth, aging, sickness and death
    • Re: New Mantra

      Sat, May 10, 2008 - 7:23 PM
      no offense, actually depending on the buddhist, do not believe in gods but one god... Adi-Buddha... the infinitely manifesting... Adi-Buddha manifests all of reality, include you, me and the computers we use and tables...ect.ect...everything... Everything is made of the body of Adi-Buddha... Adi-Buddha also is the source of the Dhyana Buddhas... which in turn manifest the bodhisattvas... none of the beings are gods...none are worshiped... each being represent a concept... for example Manjushri is the Bodhisattva of Wisdom... Kurukuli is Love, MahaKala is Great Law... ect ect.. Though many buddhist do believe these concepts to have physical manifestations... Many do not... Zen buddhists particularly Chinese Zen buddhist believe in a 'intellectual' enlightenment... with no spiritual content....
      Tibetan Buddhist like myself are unique in that we believe Bodhisattvas, Mahashitas, and Buddhas are not only in the past and future but are being born and made every day...

      So in other words.. No buddhists do not believe in a Pantheon of Gods... They believe in 1 Creator only 1... That we are all apart of... everything is part of that 1 creator god... Bodhisattvas and Buddhas are just beings... like you or me...
      • Re: New Mantra

        Sat, May 10, 2008 - 10:05 PM
        The term "God" is all tied up in monotheistic power-struggling..... and although there may be a singular creator god involved in the latest creation cycle, there is much more complexity to matters of the spirit, co-creators and changing of creator god roles. As far as the Adi-Buddha.... that is more a creation of co-creators willfully coming into harmony to join consciousness into a oneness of Mind, for the sake of periodically acting as one in manifesting a new cycle of creations............... The adi-buddha is "a co-beingness" that is subordinate to individual deities.
        The individual is the de facto source of power, and only to the extent that we are all able to evolve into collective harmonization can the adi-buddha even function as a kind of meta-being.
        This Singularity Principle that is referred to as "God" is entirely dependent upon the individuals (such as us) in our multi-dimensional manifestations........... not so much the other way around where we are powerless and subservient unto a singularity,.... except for those who are chosing this.
        We are deities, and some are Deities.... who are within that capacity. Many make be content in a very limited and casual involvement in co-creation, .... others may be intensively aware (in this creation cycle) of very elaborate deific issues they are fulfilling. Then there are those who opt out of spiritual evolvement, who appear to have no continuity of consciousness from one life to another. This is why so many behave as soulless, uncompassionate, unwise beings.... they are very nearly just that. All that can be done is to recognize those who are Limited in this way, and not expend unwelcome and futile efforts upon them, unless a sincere cry for spiritual help out of their stagnant condition is in evidence. But the real Bodhisattva work is for those who are in need of learning to help themselves, and actively showing a dedicated intent to do so. Merely temporarily plucking someone from their self-generated perils is not the primary work of a Bodhisattva.... unless it goes further in shedding light upon the situation for the spirit that they might understand the nature of their delusion that may be putting them in chronic helplessness.
        The danger I see in too much abdication of personal power to a singular god is that it is anti-thetical to the very purpose of creation.... which is to evolve Self-empowerment of Deific nature potentials, and the path to this is through the heart and mind..... supported by compassionate and wise utilization (as much as circumstance and free-will will allow) of what Power we do have within our reach in the context of the Limitations we are experiencing.
        • Unsu...
           

          Re: New Mantra

          Sun, May 11, 2008 - 3:53 PM
          What Leslie said. I have had recent strange ideas about what the Human/God divide is.
          These are all determinate markers, anyways.

          I hope to go find something entirely in a state of uncreation, and get to work.

          yod and nun in Hebrew alphabet form tzaddi. A combined being. I have of late wondered
          if the Kabbalistic term of the Great Unmanifest might refer to some multiple state like this.

          Really though the numbers are unimportant. And I get ahead of myself. But what's new?
        • Re: New Mantra

          Sat, June 7, 2008 - 11:43 PM
          God is but also astavakra samhita or Astavakra Gita. Back in 1995 you would find a down loadable copy, now there is selling of it over the web. A shame.
      • Re: New Mantra

        Fri, May 16, 2008 - 11:08 AM
        wow thanks for this insight what I did not realize to do some had so many variations under their lineage of truth. Ever expanding my appreciation for the creativity of the human soul to describe the undescribable.

        may we all find the deep truth of what NOW
      • Re: New Mantra

        Mon, June 23, 2008 - 3:43 PM
        no offense, actually depending on the buddhist, do not believe in gods but one god... Adi-Buddha... the infinitely manifesting... Adi-Buddha manifests all of reality, include you, me and the computers we use and tables...ect.ect...everything... Everything is made of the body of Adi-Buddha... Adi-Buddha also is the source of the Dhyana Buddhas... which in turn manifest the bodhisattvas... none of the beings are gods...none are worshiped... each being represent a concept... for example Manjushri is the Bodhisattva of Wisdom... Kurukuli is Love, MahaKala is Great Law... ect ect.. Though many buddhist do believe these concepts to have physical manifestations... Many do not... Zen buddhists particularly Chinese Zen buddhist believe in a 'intellectual' enlightenment... with no spiritual content....
        Tibetan Buddhist like myself are unique in that we believe Bodhisattvas, Mahashitas, and Buddhas are not only in the past and future but are being born and made every day...

        So in other words.. No buddhists do not believe in a Pantheon of Gods... They believe in 1 Creator only 1... That we are all apart of... everything is part of that 1 creator god... Bodhisattvas and Buddhas are just beings... like you or me...

        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

        I see your point, however, as has been explained to me there is no creater being or god as such. Yes there is the Ati Buddha, however he does not create anything in the christian anthropomorphic cosmological sense. Rather he represents pure dharmakaya mind which is the very essence of everyone's mind. This essence is explained in the heart sutras and in other sutra as well. As such everything that arises is put into motion [i.e. created] due to the combined karmic imprints and the individual perception of all that is by individual karmic imprints.

        [Personally, I think that this idea is closely related to the Taoist idea that first there is Wuji from which Taiji arises].

        To conclude, I do agree that manifestations are expressions of a specific aspect of enlightened energy or dharmakaya. But I think it is important to remember the etymological root of specific words. They carry specific connotations that arise in conjunction with specific discourse and is important to be precise.

        ps- you might like to copy my avatar that i got from 'visible mantra'. It is the baja of Manjushri in it's most complex form

  • Unsu...
     

    Re: New Mantra

    Sat, May 3, 2008 - 10:33 AM
    With all due respect, I think it's pretty good! Keep working on it and inspiring others with your compassion.

    Across whatever distance, I send my love,

    :D

    Baba Mike
    • Re: New Mantra

      Sat, May 3, 2008 - 7:28 PM
      I like it too,
      the mantra that got me thru some rough years was
      "The goddess loves me, and wants me to be happy"
      I think yours broadens it to a universal perspective!
      • Unsu...
         

        Re: New Mantra

        Sun, May 4, 2008 - 12:05 AM
        I like this mantra. Thank you for sharing.

        There is great book "Living Buddha, Living Christ" written by buddhist master Thich Nhat Hanh.

        Worthy to read , to avoid trap thinking in one concept , and understanding meaning of Compassion and Universal love in broad prospective.
        • Re: New Mantra

          Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:51 AM
          God
          Gods
          Divine
          Higher Self
          Buddha Nature
          The Universe

          Whatever name you give it, it's just a human name. It's just a label so we can place a category around a thing so we can try to understand it. Rebelling against a thing or a concept doesn't make any more real or unreal. It's just a human judgement.

          It' s like peace and loving compassion. I can't make pull it into a chair and make the world sit in it.

          But I wish I could.
          • Re: New Mantra

            Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:08 AM
            Within the human we have the potential for the fullest physical expression of:

            God
            Gods
            Divine
            Higher Self
            Buddha Nature
            The Universe

            ...as well as (most commonly) an embodiment of a Sheer Lack thereof.........

            ...yes, sitting in one chair next to another we can have the extremes of IS and IS Not ...manifest.........

            Creativity is of the essence of "all that", and I'm not necessarily talking about the versions of creativity that are developed and made as commodities to be bought and sold. (although art, design, & sculpture can be used as a primary vehicle for creative awakenings and realizations).

            That Creative essence is outside my being, yet inside my being. I work and play towards fully becoming it, rather than imagining it is "beyond what i am".

            Multiplicities.....in harmonic progression....
            • Re: New Mantra

              Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:27 AM
              ... but then, even the vast majorities of humanity who most definitely do not exhibit "all that" self-awareness aren't to be judged as being fully lacking thereof.... as All life is a miraculous thing and all consciousness is a fragment that may grow into magnificence....... just don't entrust too much practical responsibility thereupon, or expect fragrant flowers to blossom (shortterm anyway) from smoldering toxinated ruins...
  • Re: New Mantra

    Sun, May 11, 2008 - 5:57 PM

    "God now provides us with lives we love living."

    Needs some updates... revisions I think

    "God now provides" means that he at some point also didn't... there is a flaw

    the second thing is this Mantra is duality, there is God and there is us... there is no union/non-duality in it
    it's not that we are God... it's that both God and us are fictions of the ego trying to describe things while it is in charge

    "us with lives we love living" again... the "we love living" is a 'preference' thing which again goes back to personality and ego-desire

    there's just too many holes

    I guess on a pscyhological level if you wanted to create a structured (limited) belief-system for yourself that could hypnothize you enough so that you can bare life and be positive... this might work for a little bit

    I have nothing against Mantra... just this one is one I would personally never use unless I wanted to further imprint myself on Duality, Separation, Ego-Desire, could go on.
    • Re: New Mantra

      Sun, May 11, 2008 - 7:06 PM
      How about - this may be out on a limb -

      Within us, the Now is living love.

      or to be more clear in the intention of mindfulness

      Let this moment live with love.
      • Unsu...
         

        Re: New Mantra

        Sun, May 11, 2008 - 7:44 PM
        There is something behind the words, and we don't really know it.
        It is happy we are trying, but it will never be limited by our imaginings.
      • Re: New Mantra

        Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:01 PM

        Laura... let me see...

        "Within us, the Now is living love."

        I would ask:

        - is there any place where there is no love?
        - the Now is an absurditiy to the mind... how very Mu of you :-)

        - "is living love" this is saying that "Now" is a somebody....

        this is overall much better, though it can still be improved


        I think these are not so much words of Mantra, rather inspirational words for initiating contemplation which may lead to direct knowledge (Samadhi).


        I think these are not really Mantras.... they could be called a Zekr (Sufi term) a Zekr means a remebrance when you forget our self
        here are some Sufi Zekr's
        La Illaha Il allah "There is no God but God"
        Ya Haqq "Hail Truth"
        Hoval Hay-o, Hoval-Haq-o, Hoval-Hoo "Hail O Perpetual One, Hail O Truth, Hail oh Only One that ever is"

        A Mantra is more based on Sanscrit vibrations that active different energy centers
        for example "Om Namah Shivaya" I'll break it down
        Om vibrates the 6th chakra and helps open the center channel Sushumna
        Na vibrates a certain part of the Muldahara Chakra (root chakra)
        Ma vibrates a certain part of the Svadhistana Chakra (sex chakra)
        Shi vibrates a certain part of the Manipura Chakra (solar plexus)
        Va vibrates a certain part of the Vissudha chakra (throat chakra)
        the Va leads to a silent H that disappears into the void... this is the Samadhi
        overall this Mantra lays out a specific path along the energy centers

        Another example is "Om Nama Narayana"
        again the Om Nama are same
        the Na is for 1st, Ra is for one of the left petals of the 3rd Chakra (which also energizes and vibrates one of the inner fires), Ya as we know is the 5th and helps the fire cool a little bit too... Na again makes the full circle back down to 1st and ends with a silent h leading to silence

        There are many many many of these

        for example just chanting Ra alone will energize you quiet effectively... but you also must have some awareness of the energy body and how to properly vibrate this

        later as a Mantra practioner advances, no longer voice is needed... it leads to inner voice... the inner voice per my experience also disappears and becomes more of a resonance of our being with other large entities like planets (celestial bodies) or the universe itself... in that case with the resonance the Om is merely heard without any effort


        • Re: New Mantra

          Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:06 PM
          sorry typo

          the Va vibrates the heart center.... La is another one that vibrates a different par to the Anahata Chakra (heart center)

          it's interesting that La and Va are both for the heart... since LaVa is not so far from "love"

          and Ya is 5th chakra visuddha
          • Re: New Mantra

            Mon, May 12, 2008 - 7:20 PM
            I don't think of the Now as somebody. I think of it as the energy that I block with my human thinking. That if I let my ego go, let my thoughts go, well there is the Now. It is an abusurdity of the mind because the mind can't fathom these things. The mind tries to figure out and scheme and plan and label and place in a box. No mind is where the freedom is. That's what I was getting at there.

            And yes there are plenty of places with no love, sad to say. All those places where the mind and ego rage, where human will is forced upon everything outside them, where madness dwells. To release this thrashing outside, one can see there is the love waiting to be awakened.

            And yes, my ideas aren't mantras in the technical form. Suggestions for contemplations, yes. That's more the root of the thing.
            • Re: New Mantra

              Mon, May 12, 2008 - 8:16 PM

              Laura, from what you have written... and from the perspective of a person being stuck in "mind and ego rage" probably something like you said would be helpful.

              Though from my perspective, there is no place where there is no love, and this remembrance could help in increasing the awareness of that especially in hostile situations.

              Relating to "now" an it or something is probably one way from ego perspective to identify it.

              1. To me, the "ego" is a misplaced sense of identity that is in constant flux due to it's untruth
              2. The ego is happening when thoughts are in a whirlpool within the mind, so ego is a disease of mind.
              3. Mind is a space where thoughts are in motion, it has systems of logic, memory, and different ways of processing and recording impressions. The mind has subtle thoughts which lead to sub-thoughts which lead to regular thoughts which all whirl up along the mind to create the ego.
              4. Consciousness, i.e. pure consciousness by a facility or programming we can call Maya begins folding itself in myriad of ways to create original thoughts... this plane of original thoughts is the Causal Plane of thoughts. It was where archetypes are conceived.
              5. Consciousness is a product of Awareness
              6. Awareness is like a field of golden dust particles which each have two active qualities. The first quality is of seeking/searching for other specs, the other is to reflect each other. Through the large network of specs gathering and reflecting the white projector screen of pure-consciousness is conceived.
              7. So far everything has been very mechanic. It stays this way until we realize the mysterious quality that Awareness itself is self-aware.



    • Re: New Mantra

      Sat, June 7, 2008 - 11:45 PM
      God has nothing to do with materialistic enjoyment that some call life. Try to approach death and you will fond out that your gods were personal devil. Beware the psyche, it tricked even Buddha, but Buddha discreated Mara.
      • Unsu...
         

        Re: New Mantra

        Sun, June 8, 2008 - 12:05 PM
        PLease describe how the Buddha did this,
        what work this story is told in.
  • Re: New Mantra

    Wed, May 14, 2008 - 9:34 PM
    This one has gotten me through some challenging times:

    "With every step I am healing.
    With every step I grow stronger.
    With every step I am
    reaching
    stretching
    growing to become
    the best me I can be."
    • Re: New Mantra

      Thu, May 15, 2008 - 10:37 AM

      Darkling T's,

      This looks very good, though I would not allow "I" to be so solid and unchangeable.... as what you have written chokes the possibility of any transformation... it only allows for variation of your "I" healing, growing, being...

      If I used something like that for myself, I would say something like

      With every step I am new
      Every step is a new path, a new trail
      With every step, the old dies
      and again I'm recreated anew

      each new step, a new form emerges
      and with each step, only beyond formless remains constant

      or shorter put: life is impermanence
  • Re: New Mantra

    Tue, June 3, 2008 - 3:56 PM
    I love your mantra. Covers all the bases and is short, sweet and makes me feel good. Thanks for sharing.
    • Unsu...
       

      Re: New Mantra

      Sun, June 8, 2008 - 11:22 AM
      We love your mantra too.
      Vibrations of true Love are so adjusted with sounds of Universe. Than each word becomes wisdom and each sound becomes mantra.
      • K
        K
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        "God now provides us with lives we love living."

        That is an English phrase, an affirmation. It is not Sanskrit, and it is neither Hindu, nor Buddhist.
        It is a personal thought, not a lineage teaching from a guru.
        There is no deity associated with this supposed mantra, nor is there a sacred text, nor is there established lineage.

        Guru Sakyamuni Buddha publically rejected the belief in a creator deity as contrary to the law of karma and the pursuit of spiritual liberation.
        Just so you know. The Dalai Lama has done the same, many many times.

        Also. you have failed to specify which God. A Celtic God? A Hindu God, like Krishna? One of the Voodoo gods? A Taoist God?
        ROTFL!

        Thanks for offering us an obviously non-Buddhist non-mantra as a mantra in a Mahayana Buddhist tribe.
        The response clearly shows that numerous somewhat Buddhist people here have no idea at all what a mantra is, Buddhist or Hindu!

        I have published numerous teachings for tribe regarding Medicine Buddha, Manjusri, and Vajrasattva practice.
        You can see a basic teaching on Vajrasattva mantra at my tribe home under the photo for "100 syllable mantra".

        As the Dalai Lama reportedly said to the Bishops and Cardinals at the Vatican many years ago:
        "God is YOUR business. Karma is MY business."

        OM MANI PADMA HUM.


        KT


        • K
          K
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          Re
          "God now provides us with lives we love living."

          KT further says
          CLAPTON IS GOD.
          • So many beautiful responses here, yet many sound very sectarian and full of 'knowledge' to me.

            Who are are any of us to determine what is beneficial to another's practice and attempt to change it according to our understanding of the Dharma?

            The most any of us can do is offer the gift of our own experiences. At least that is my experience.

            The last time i checked, the Sanskrit word 'Mantra' was composed of two roots "man" referring to the Manas - mind stuff, and "tra" meaning to transform or protect. It would seem to me that outside of all the varying definitions of different sects of what defines a mantra - anything which helps to transform or protect the mind would qualify - again this is only from my personal practice experience with working toward the transformation of my own Mind.

            For many of us, 'God' has a clear meaning and does not require questions about whether it's hindu, celtic, etc. One could equally scrutinize the mantra Namo Buddhaya and ask which buddha one was offering reverence to, Dippankhara perhaps? and why, if we are meant to be lamps unto our own path, should we be showing reverence to the Buddha anyway?

            just a couple of thoughts.

            I don't mind that the all pervasive consciousness which I call God sometimes is providing me in each moment with an exstance filled with love and vital force. so, thanks for sharing this mantra with me.
            • The ideational meaning of mantra (an acoustic sound appropriate to the individual -often empowered by a qualified teacher, guru, lama) increases psychic strength and stamina, and may help the practitioner to abide longer in certain deeper states of awareness. Perhaps it is important to be aware that Increasing psychic strength can be the result of mantra practice which needs to be guided into a proper spiritual direction. In meditation, some try to keep the flow of awareness continuous, without break or pause. A mantra is often used as a key for this practice. Perhaps it can be compared to a rocket engine that propels the mind to expand and merge merge into the unexpressed illuminated awarenesses with accelerated speed. The empowered mantra, a beautiful universal sound harmony, is meant to liberate and guide the being to full emancipation and enlightenment.

              Besides, perhaps certain positive thought waves, or our heart beat, our own way of breathing, and our metabolic rate, etc. may all produce another particular beautiful "song" or "melody" - all of which are subtle mantras as well. Maybe when these personal mantra melodies are raised and combined to subtler and slower frequency levels, with or without the help of a mantra, we ultimately becomes infinite really fast – as the mind merges into beautiful boundless illuminated empty freedom - finally enjoying true inner and outer happiness and harmony.

              A mantra really creates a spiritual internal revolution.
  • Re: New Mantra

    Sun, February 22, 2009 - 10:53 PM
    "i am that I am as we are all that is"

    "I am god, king, man, magus, sage, fool"

    "One for all for all are one"

    These are my three faves.